The Big Bad Wolf:
Hey Gene! First of all I wanted to say as a big fan of yours I
am happy that younger generations can see the work you have done in
Tomb of Dracula. I am so happy to hear Marvel has released the essential
ToD #1 and #2 is on its way. What's your thoughts on this?
Gene Colan: They
are coming out with a second installment soon of that and Daredevil where
people can see my work.
The Big Bad Wolf: Lets
go back to the beginning of Tomb of Dracula. I hear that Stan Lee was
first going to pick Bill Everett as the artist. How did you change
his mind?
Gene Colan: I told Stan he is making a big
mistake. This is something that was made to order for me. What I did
was work up some samples at home. Page samples of Dracula in different
positions and moods and everything. I sent the work in. The very next
day I got a call from Stan Lee and he said "You've got it, it's yours."
The
Big Bad Wolf: What was it about
Dracula that appealed to you?
Gene Colan: It's
a horror story. Horror stories always interested me in film. It
had to start with my first exposure to anything that was horror,
which was Frankenstein. My father had taken me to a theatre in
the Bronx when I was only 5 years old, which was a big mistake.
(laughs) I was traumatized by it.(laughs) It had such a long lasting
effect on me. From that point on anything that was horror intrigued
me. I could never bring myself to go to a Frankenstein film by
myself. (laughs) My interest in horror started at that point.
The
Big Bad Wolf: While doing Tomb
of Dracula did you ever think 'Wow this book is going to be special'?

Gene Colan: I hoped it would be special
because I enjoyed doing it so much. I didn't want to just start
doing it and have them drop the book. I got so immersed in
it, the book and I became one. We were just together on the
book. The book and I were one in the same. I got into it and
never stopped to think about the sales or anything, I just
enjoyed it. I think that is the secret in everything. If you
enjoy what you are doing than it will be successful.
The
Big Bad Wolf: I
have heard that you enjoy listening to music or doing things
that get you in the mood to draw whatever book you are working
on. When drawing ToD what used to get you in the mood?
Gene
Colan: I
listened to classical music. Tchaikovsky. Stravinsky was
a modern composer. Prokofiev. Aaron Copland. Eventually
as time went on all the films that were made there was
always a running soundtrack. It all started with classical
music and it became easier because all of the horror films
had the appropriate music. Also radio programs.
The
Big Bad Wolf: It
is known you used to bring your camera to places such
as Times Square to take a picture and then draw it so
that people would recognize that certain spot in the
city when they see their favorite hero walking by it.
Did you ever do any of that type of thing for Dracula?
Gene Colan: Fans always related to
the realism of a story. Although I can make up buildings
like any artist could, it was nothing like the real
place. Dracula was in Boston so Adrienne and I went
on a trip there. They have very classic looking older
homes which aided me in the gothic type of look.
The
Big Bad Wolf: The
third installment of the Blade franchise is coming
out. Another character you drew, Hannibal King will
be in it. This is great news. What's your thoughts
on the Blade series?
Gene Colan: It was a good character
that Marv Wolfman had invented and I am glad I had
a part in it. We always discussed it, I think it
will make a great film. Hollywood is going in the
directions of comics. They almost forgot to write
good material of their own. Comics are a big thing
now and they are going to make money out of it.
The
Big Bad Wolf: In
a recent interview with David Goyer, director of
Blade said that back when the first Blade movie
came out marvel had no plans to credit you and
Marv Wolfman on creating the character. David had
to get on the phone with New Line to make sure
both you and marv wolfman got credit for creating
blade. As short time later David Goyer got a message
from Marv Wolfman's people saying that "just HE
should get the credit."
Goyer aid and I quote "Come on! I was surprised by that, so I said,
'F**k that!' He's going to get credit too." What was Marv Wolfman thinking
on that?
Gene Colan: I don't
know. I think he wanted to take full credit. I don't know what he was
thinking. I played a small part in it. I had to go to Albany with my
lawyer to meet with Marv Wolfman's lawyer and Marvel's lawyer. Marvel
tried to get me to say Marv really didn't have any rights to any of
it. Probably technically he didn't but truthfully he did.He had all
the rights to it because he created the character. I stood up for him
and for myself as well because I played a part in it also. He came
up with the idea of the character and I came up with the visuals. Marvel
didn't buy that. In this case Marvel wanted the whole thing for themselves.
There wasn't much we can do. Marv hired a lawyer and tried to fight
it but he lost. We should have got more than just recognition on screen,
You need a lot of money to fight these people. I guess Marv thought
he was entitled to all of it. Why? I don't know. I think if it ever
came down to it he would have shared some of it with me.
The Big Bad
Wolf: Why
isn't Marvel using these characters now? No Dracula, Werewolf by Night,
no sign of Blade, or King or Drake.... what's your thoughts on that?
Gene Colan: I don't know why. Some are more popular
than others. Whatever they think they can make the biggest dent
financially with they are interested in.
The Big Bad Wolf: A
question I always wondered. You and Mike Ploog were without a
doubt the horror artists for Marvel in the 70s. What is your thoughts
on Ploog?
Gene Colan: I have never met him. We just never
came together on anything. It was never an idea. I was doing
pretty well on my own.
The Big Bad Wolf: Who
is your favorite inker was to work with?
Gene Colan: I got in with Tom Palmer. He was a fine
inker, an upright guy. He really is a terrific fellow.
The
Big Bad Wolf: Have you ever had to change
your penciling to accommodate an inker?
Gene Colan: No. I never would do that. They either
could ink it or they couldn't. A lot of inkers complained
that they couldn't follow my work. I have to admit it
wasn't easy but that's the way I work.
The Big Bad Wolf: Who was
your favorite writer to work with?
Gene Colan: Steve
Gerber without a doubt. He was a very funny fellow.
I enjoyed doing Howard the Duck. I would roar at
his ideas. He is a very comical guy. He would have been
great as a comedy writer.
The Big Bad Wolf: What's
your thoughts on the Comics Code?
Gene Colan: I
think they may go a little too far with it. In
the beginning I had no objections with it. Only
certain things can be shown. In filming there
used to be a thing called the Hayes Office. You had
to line up with them to put out a film. They
would let you know what you can or can't show. It was
a good thing. Some of the best things though
are the things you don't see. The anticipation of seeing
something terrible, yet you never get to see
it is a wonderful teaser. It work's it keeps the audience
or reader on the edge of their seat. There was
a film called The Haunting that was just that
very thing. You see nothing but you expect something.
I think that too much is shown even in films.
Too much gore.
The Big Bad Wolf: Working
in horror comics as much as you did, did you
ever have editors worried about some of your pages or
panels being too graphic?
Gene Colan: No. I never had that happen. I worked
with some difficult editors but never had
any trouble with that.
The Big Bad Wolf: What
the biggest difference you see in today's
comics from the comics of 30-40 years ago?
Gene Colan: When I started an awful lot was
required of an artist. I thought I could just
waltz myself in the business knowing
very little. I figured I had enough of a knack
for it that I could get a job, but that
was not the case. They told me I had
to go to art school. I just wanted a job.
I was 16 so I did. When I got out of
the service I continued at the Art's Student
League in New York. It was a necessary
thing. If I wanted to get work that is
what I needed to do. I needed to brush
up on anatomy. I didn't know a thing
about anatomy. I picked up whatever I could see
from Jack Kirby's work. He was an excellent
artist. He had a real great look to his
work. I just adored his work. It was
a good thing I went to school I did pick
up some stuff. I began to get comic work
after that.
The Big Bad Wolf: I
hear a lot of stuff from the industry
saying that horror type characters
don't belong or wont work now a days, what
are your thoughts on that?
Gene Colan: If its well done it would
work. The bottom line is if it sells they'll
print anything.
The Big Bad Wolf: Did
you give writers a lot of input
when you worked with them on a book for
a while?
Gene Colan: Sometimes
I would. I tried to please the writers if I could.
If the writer was persistent
in having something his way, I would
do it. If there was something
I didn't understand I would call
the writer up. I would do the
same with Stan Lee. The only thing he
objected to was me getting jammed
up. Stan Lee would turn the stories
over to the artists in the very
early 50's. I did al lot of work
on the freelance level with Stan.
In order to hold down the books
which he wrote himself, he put
all the dialog in the titles
himself, that way he didn't have to hire
people to do it. He would give
the responsibility to the artist.
Stan's idea of a story was five
or six paragraphs, just a synopsis
of what the story was about.
We would do the best we could with
it. When the film Bullet came
out I was so impressed with the car
chase in it. I wanted the opportunity
to do it in a comic book. I took
six or seven pages out of a twenty
page story to do that. Stan was
furious because it took up so
much space and I got jammed up in the
end so I had to cut the ending
a little short.(laughs) Stan
said "You
could have told that car chase
scene in one page!" It
was a good thing though. A lot
of people commented it in the
Letter to the Editor page.
The
Big Bad Wolf: Who's
the one person who most helped
you become a success in comics?
Gene Colan: Syd
Shores.He was such a wonderful fellow.
He helped me a lot in comics.
He was the art director in
the bullpen. When I got
my job there Syd helped a
lot of the newcomers who
had trouble with the work.
I was no exception, I had
a lot of trouble with the
work I remember a simple
scene that he helped me out
with. A very simple scene
to draw, a gangster story.
This very pretty girl was
making herself up in a mirror.
I just couldn't do it. I
just couldn't get the naturalness
of the pose. So I showed
Syd and he sketched quickly
and how beautifully it looked.
He was wonderful. He did
that with everybody. He was
a wonderful man and in my
opinion was not treated well
at the end. He could not
get any work and that should
not have happened.
The Big Bad Wolf:
Do you follow any of the newer artists?
Gene Colan: No I don't. A lot of the art I look at
and some of it is very good and some of it very poor. It must have
been the same way when I started. They need artist's coming in all
the time and they may have to take them in sooner than they are ready
for. They need to keep the books going. Some artists would get bored
doing stories with the same character all the time. Personally, I wanted
to get on to a character that I could live with and improve on. It
would help my artwork improve. I always thought I could do the book
justice by working like that. I love the Dare Devil artist Alex Maleev.
He is excellent.
The Big Bad Wolf: What is your favorite horror
movie?
Gene Colan: Frankenstein.
That movie was unbelievable to me to see anything on the screen
that looked like that. It really stunned me like I was seeing something
that just doesn't exist. When you think of the make-up that went
on Boris Karloff at the time it was amazing this movie came out
in 1931. Jack Pierce was the make-up artist. He didn't have the sophistication
of the substances they have today to make people up. He had to
think of something that would look good and be convincing. They really
did a wonderful job with that film. The original film The Thing
with James Arness was a very good film and very believable. The Haunting
as well with Julie Harris.
The Big Bad Wolf: Are you working on
anything lately that you would like to promote?
Gene Colan: I just finished doing the 'The Escapist'
by Michael Chabon. He had a best seller called Kavalier and
Clay. He decided to try his hand at comic books. I got 21 pages
out of that. I just finished it recently. It will be out in
another month of two.
The Big Bad Wolf: Gene, thank you for all
your time on this. This is something I will never forget. You are
a Legend, Gene Colan. Thank you for all you have done in the comics
world. You took the horror characters to another level. I proudly
display the art work of Dracula vs Blade that you did for me in
my home. I look at it with pride everyday.
Once again thank you for doing what you do
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