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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore ListReply with quote

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Movie Frost, as La Mangra? 10/10, crushes anybody.



Let me pose this to the panel,,,,,,,,La Mangra vs Zarothos????????


Zarathos. He was powerful enough to give Mephisto trouble.
And back to GR versus Frost. I think some people here are Vastly underrating GR. He's beaten the Hulk for heavens sake. And that was early in his his appearance as the GR. He's only gotten better since then at controlling his powers.


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IFdude wrote:
bigd_22_2000 wrote:
Movie Frost, as La Mangra? 10/10, crushes anybody.



Let me pose this to the panel,,,,,,,,La Mangra vs Zarothos????????


Zarathos. He was powerful enough to give Mephisto trouble.
And back to GR versus Frost. I think some people here are Vastly underrating GR. He's beaten the Hulk for heavens sake. And that was early in his his appearance as the GR. He's only gotten better since then at controlling his powers.


The Hulk is no god. La Magra is.

We only got a taste of what La Magra could do. Who knows what type of damage he could've done if given the chance.
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DeaconFrost wrote:
IFdude wrote:
bigd_22_2000 wrote:
Movie Frost, as La Mangra? 10/10, crushes anybody.



Let me pose this to the panel,,,,,,,,La Mangra vs Zarothos????????


Zarathos. He was powerful enough to give Mephisto trouble.
And back to GR versus Frost. I think some people here are Vastly underrating GR. He's beaten the Hulk for heavens sake. And that was early in his his appearance as the GR. He's only gotten better since then at controlling his powers.


The Hulk is no god. La Magra is.

We only got a taste of what La Magra could do. Who knows what type of damage he could've done if given the chance.


The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


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The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.

WOW........you really are a true ghost rider fan to bring up that kind of GR history for the thread and for that I will give you a standing "O". I agree with you 120%.

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The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.

WOW........you really are a true ghost rider fan to bring up that kind of GR history for the thread and for that I will give you a standing "O". I agree with you 120%.

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Thanks. Ghost Rider is my second favorite Character ever and I've read all of his appearances so I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about him.
I don't think he's the end all be all. But I do know what he's capable of.


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Hey Dec,

You brought up some good points as well my man. The blood god is a great character as well but I am glad the way the moviemakers went with. I am sure you have seen the deleted scene that I am speaking of from Blade 1 DVD.


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IFdude wrote:

The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


Keyword there, man. Demon. Zarathos is a demon, Deacon's a god. Two different beings, one superior than the other.

Guess which one. Very Happy
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DeaconFrost wrote:
IFdude wrote:

The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


Keyword there, man. Demon. Zarathos is a demon, Deacon's a god. Two different beings, one superior than the other.

Guess which one. Very Happy


Judging by how Marvel usually shows Gods I'm going to vote Demon. Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore ListReply with quote

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Judging by how Marvel usually shows Gods I'm going to vote Demon. Wink


Good point. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore ListReply with quote

IFdude wrote:
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IFdude wrote:

The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


Keyword there, man. Demon. Zarathos is a demon, Deacon's a god. Two different beings, one superior than the other.

Guess which one. Very Happy


Judging by how Marvel usually shows Gods I'm going to vote Demon. Wink


True, but La Magra isn't a Marvel character, now is he? He never appeared in the comics, only the first film. Technically he's a New Line character, not a Marvel one, even if he figures prominantly in a version of a Marvel character.


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True, but La Magra isn't a Marvel character, now is he? He never appeared in the comics, only the first film. Technically he's a New Line character, not a Marvel one, even if he figures prominantly in a version of a Marvel character.


You're right. I didn't even think about that.
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Imposter wrote:
IFdude wrote:
DeaconFrost wrote:
IFdude wrote:

The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


Keyword there, man. Demon. Zarathos is a demon, Deacon's a god. Two different beings, one superior than the other.

Guess which one. Very Happy


Judging by how Marvel usually shows Gods I'm going to vote Demon. Wink


True, but La Magra isn't a Marvel character, now is he? He never appeared in the comics, only the first film. Technically he's a New Line character, not a Marvel one, even if he figures prominantly in a version of a Marvel character.



I'll give you that. But in order for La Magra to face Zarathos it would have to be in a comic because he's never appeared in a movie. Wink
Hence it would be under Marvel comic rules. Meaning The Demon wins. Twisted Evil


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I'll give you that. But in order for La Magra to face Zarathos it would have to be in a comic because he's never appeared in a movie. Wink
Hence it would be under Marvel comic rules. Meaning The Demon wins. Twisted Evil


Says you. Razz
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IFdude wrote:
I'll give you that. But in order for La Magra to face Zarathos it would have to be in a comic because he's never appeared in a movie. Wink
Hence it would be under Marvel comic rules. Meaning The Demon wins. Twisted Evil


Says you. Razz


Well yeah. And what I say goes. Yellow Devil
Seriously though It would be a cool fight to see. Maybe Marvel can make it happen someday.


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IFdude wrote:
Imposter wrote:
IFdude wrote:
DeaconFrost wrote:
IFdude wrote:

The beginning of this was simply GR versus Frost. Not GR versus La Magra.
If you want to give Frost the advantage by giving him his most powerful form then you do the same for GR by making him the demon Zarathos at his peak of power.
You do that and La Magra loses. Zarathos at his peak is the equal if not superior of Mephisto. The only way Mephisto could beat him was by weakening him when he sent a shaman who Mephisto had removed the soul from to be absorbed by Zarathos. When Zarathos tried to absorb his soul it caught him off guard and made his followers doubt him which weakened him just enough for Mephisto to beat him.
You put Zarathos at his peak against La Magra and La Magra loses.
You put Frost against Ghost Rider and he loses.


Keyword there, man. Demon. Zarathos is a demon, Deacon's a god. Two different beings, one superior than the other.

Guess which one. Very Happy


Judging by how Marvel usually shows Gods I'm going to vote Demon. Wink


True, but La Magra isn't a Marvel character, now is he? He never appeared in the comics, only the first film. Technically he's a New Line character, not a Marvel one, even if he figures prominantly in a version of a Marvel character.



I'll give you that. But in order for La Magra to face Zarathos it would have to be in a comic because he's never appeared in a movie. Wink
Hence it would be under Marvel comic rules. Meaning The Demon wins. Twisted Evil


At the same time though, La Magra hasn't appeared in comics yet. (Though, hopefully, he'll make an appearance in the new Blade series)

IFdude wrote:
Seriously though It would be a cool fight to see. Maybe Marvel can make it happen someday.


Definitely.


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